It's one thing for Aangirfan to allow gay people to bully child abuse victims, but it's going a bit too far when the child abuse victims are prevented from defending themselves from being attacked, by way of selective censoring.
Here is Aangirfans latest post. Aangirfan has removed the posts I made, leaving only the responses to it, which are of a bullying nature.
I am going to make myself crystal clear on this blog - one of the few places left to me where I am being allowed to exercise freedom of speech and the right to defend myself. I DO NOT HATE ANYONE FOR BEING GAY - I AM NOT "HOMOPHOBIC", I SIMPLY HATE AND DETEST CHILD ABUSE AND I HATE CHILD ABUSERS HIDING BEHIND A SMOKESCREEN OF GAY RIGHTS IN ORDER TO HAVE A CARTE BLANCHE TO NOT ONLY ABUSE CHILDREN BUT ALSO TO PERSECUTE WHISTLEBLOWERS AND ADULT VICTIMS WHO DARE TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE ABUSE THEY HAVE SUFFERED!
Here is the blogpost that I have been censored on, and my comments removed:
Friday, October 11, 2013
JOE AND JADIN BELL
Joe and son Jadin - both dead.
On 9 October 2013, in Colorado, Joe Bell was killed when he was hit by a truck.
Truck driver Kenneth Raven has been 'cited with careless driving.'
Joe, aged 48, from Oregon, was on a 5,000 mile walk - to raise awareness about bullying.
Joe's 15-year-old son Jadin, who had been bullied, was found hanged at a La Grande school in January 2013.
Joe's Walk for Change Facebook page describes how Joe had been speaking at schools and clubs across the USA about homophobic bullying.
Jadin had been the victim of relentless bullying in school because of his sexuality.
Joe began his walk in Oregon in April 2013, traveling up to 25 miles a day as he raised awareness for Faces for Change, the anti-bullying foundation set up in Jadin's memory.
Huffington Post.
Jadin
At one stop on his journey, Mr Bell told a youth group about when Jadin first told them he was gay.
Denver Post
Joe told the group:
"My son didn't choose to be gay.
"My son was different at a very young age."
"He told his family he was gay because he knew they would accept him.
"I hugged him and kissed him on the cheek every day. I was proud of him."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/
Remember that most of the hate-filled, bullying 'Christian' homophobes are gay.
The Bible tells us that it is forbidden to wear an outfit made out of more than one kind of cloth.
How many Christians are ignoring this rule?
Whosoever: An Open Letter to Homophobic Christian Parents
In Ezekiel 16:49 the "sin of Sodom" was identified as "pride, laziness, and too much food, while the poor and needy suffered"?
(not a word about homosexuality.)
Several scriptures refer to these sins, sins of failure to love and care for others, as being "worse than the sin of Sodom".
Whosoever: An Open Letter to Homophobic Christian Parents
Paul said "Let your women keep silent in the churches."
How many Christians accept this?
Whosoever: An Open Letter to Homophobic Christian Parents
Joe Bell, man walking to memorialize son, is fatally hit by truck in Colorado
Jadin Bell's Father Begins Walk Across America
Dad walking across America for suicide gay teen killed in crash
Jadin Bell's Father, Joe Bell, Killed While Walking Cross Country For Tribute To Dead Gay Teen
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8 comments:
Stephen Gash said...
Yes but that's the point. Christianity and religion in general was put in its box with Darwin and the Age of Reason. Now we cannot even analyse let alone criticise Islam.
2:56 PM
Anon said...
Dear Anonymous and Zoompad,
I notice that you do not express any sympathy for the deceased.
Please consider the 'tone' of your comments.
Some 'Christians' often come across as being like the Pharisees.
"The only people Jesus had words of judgment for in the Gospels were the religious folks.
"What angered Him the most about these people, particularly the religious leaders, was their judgmentalism, their hypocrisy and their failure to love.
"They believed God was primarily interested in people following the rules. Jesus taught that God's primary rule was love.
"Though Jesus was opposed by various people in the Gospels, His primary opposition was from a group of religious people called Pharisees (the word likely comes from a Hebrew word that means "set apart" or "separated")."
When Christians Get It Wrong (Abingdon Press, 2010) by Adam Hamilton.
4:37 PM
Anonymous said...
I have this fantastic thing for God just not his creation(ism). My OT knowledge may be sub par compared to others but I know in my heart OT knowledge is nothing but fairy tales and hocus pocus and cleaning up on three services on sonday? Three chears for the hellenized Jew? Some Christians come off as Pharisees? Three more chears for hellenized Jew everywhere?
5:03 PM
hirundine said...
While not a christian, I have always been interested in all religions.
Carl Jung shows that humans have a religious nature. Which is likely the root cause, of so much dissension?
What I find ridiculous is the way in christianity, of Jesus being the "all". Is the way in which others are introduced. As if they somehow trump the position of Jesus of Nazareth. I suppose it makes their own position somewhat more tenable? Funnily, this man Jesus said. That the commandments of Moses were no longer to be used. That God his father commanded him to preach the two new commandments.
"That to love one another as thy self and to do unto others as you would have done unto you".
Strangely? This statement forms part of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, also.
Also strangely? The most focus is on Christianity. When the oldest religion on this planet today, is Hinduism.
So much Vedic knowledge has been stolen by recent "discoverers". That now take credit, for a knowledge gained thousands of years ago.
Most Christian dogma and ideas, shows up in religions older than theirs. Shown in the Zeitgeist movie, for example.
If the man Jesus of Nazareth lived? It can be seen he preached against both the Pharisees and Saducees. For good reason. I would advise people to discover why these sects within a sect. Bring down such disapproval from "the messiah". Enough for them to denounce his teachings.
On a personal level I see more credence to the notion that, the gnostics of Jesus of Nazareth were a sun of God [not son of God] sun-worshipping religion. That the Roman historian Josephus and the Roman emperor Constantine. Took a sun-worshiping sect, and perpetrated a scam to humanize this god, to bring religion under control of the state.
The Ashkenazi jews, were converted Khazaks. Controlled by Pharisees and Saducees. The Sephardic jews, migrated to Persia and eventually throughout the Mediterranean basin. That the real jews left behind, in Palestine. Converted to Islam. As it swept throughout the region, while Mohammed called himself "the Prophet".
5:22 PM
Dublinmick said...
SU
Chris Spivey is back up, at least I am looking at it now.
You had me wondering, as I had just linked him and he mirrored a post of mine ...Littel Hitler, Hitler was Rothschild etc.
7:21 PM
Anon said...
Dear Zoompad,
Please put it clearly in writing that you have sympathy for Joe and Jadin Bell.
You have suggested in previous posts that your God hates gay people.
8:34 PM
Ruth of Exeter said...
I am a fundamentalist Christian and I try to do what Jesus told us to do - to love God and to love others. That includes gay people like Jadin. And yes, it sounds like cliche, but one of my best friends is gay. It's true that we don't see each other so much since I was saved. He says, come to an NA meeting. I say, no, Stevie, come to church. He has told me of the deathly thing that is the average gay lifestyle, and for some years of pleasure he is now struck down with HIV, created not by God, but by man. And he is sad that he missed out on having a family. I used to live as a Sodomite, back in London. And it broke my heart and nearly killed me. God's laws are life - rejecting them I death. May God bless all gay folks, and bring them home to their true Father.
12:17 AM
Anon said...
Dear Ruth of Exeter,
You are indeed a good soul as you love Jadin.
We disagree about what constitutes "the average gay lifestyle".
To me the average 'gay' person is the little school boy who has an innocent crush on his male friend, or, the happily married mother who only has sex with her male husband but who finds girls more physically attractive than boys, or, the happily married father who only has sex with his wife but who finds boys more physically attractive than girls, or, the married soldier who joined the army in order to spend as much time as possible with men, or, the anti-gay campaigner who conveniently hides his youthful sexual relationship with boys...
I believe that most people with gay tastes never do sodomy.
The gay people who are 'out', and who do gay sex with multiple partners, are a tiny minority.
In many Moslem countries, the men who love their male friends do not consider themselves to be gay; this is because the term 'gay' is a modern Western invention, promoted now by those who want to divide and rule.
7:41 AM
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This is the bit that made me smile in spite of myself:
Anon said...
Dear Zoompad,
Please put it clearly in writing that you have sympathy for Joe and Jadin Bell.
You have suggested in previous posts that your God hates gay people.
8:34 PM
As soon as I read that piece of control freakery I had a mental image (because I tend to think in pictures) of someone bressed in a black uniform holding me down by the scruff of my neck at a school desk to force me to write, with a flogging impliment in the other hand.
I just can't handle it when people try to bully me, it just makes me want to shout and scream, and so here I am, shouting and screaming.
You carry on bullying me, and I will carry on screaming as loud as ever I can, because, I tell you what, you are NOT NOT NOT going to bully me in silence ever again!!!
"Please put it clearly in writing that you have sympathy for Joe and Jadin Bell."
That is a very nasty attempt to make other people think (wrongly) that I am a hard hearted malicious cow who has no sympathy for these two people, who I don't know anything about at all apart from what is written on Aangirfans blog, who appear to have died in tragic circumstances.
People might think I am going over the top posting this response, but you see I've had to deal with this sort of malicious crafty wordtwisting nonsense before, and know how important it is to nip it in the bud.
It is bullying of a particular crafty and nasty kind, and I have the right to defend myself from it - but not, apparently on Aangirfan's Blog, which is allowing comments attacking me to be posted but censoring my posts to defend myself.
This is the post I have just left on Aangirfan's blog, just in case Aangirfan decides to censor this one as well:
Oh dear, I see I am being censored.
Never mind, I will just have to use my own blog to exercise my freedom of speech to defend myself from being bullied on your blog Aangirfan, just as I had to on the Jersey Farce Blog.
What a pity you are allowing child abuse survivors to be bullied on your blog.
Just bear in mnd that most homosexuals are heterophobic because they wish they were normal themselves
Dr A McDonald psychiatrist 1978
AAngirfan makes no mention of the bulling that comes from homosexuals
why ?
If you use the analogy of magnets,
like poles repel and opposites attract, this is a universal rule which applies also to people.
Many faked up pics of animals show them being homosexual but this has never been proved.
Every religion in the world bans it
for one reason, its wrong and its perverted
Barabra you are in the right, everyone who has been abused agrees with and supports you.
AAngirfan is sick we know this.
I am in touch with a group of men who were abused as boys by homosexuals, we will boycott aangirfan because of their support for perversion
btian woodward
"Anonymous said...
Let me explain something."
No, first let me ask something - WHY IS AANGIRFAN POSTING CHRISTIANAPHOBIC AND HETROPHOBIC COMMENTS ON HIS/HER BLOG AND NOT ALLOWING THE PEOPLE HE/SHE IS ATTACKING TO DEFEND THEMSELVES?
I have been censored on many blogs that are anti child abuse.
Even Stuart Syvret censors a lot of my comments, but I don't mind him doing it so much as I know that he is still deluded by that MI5 agent/politician John Hemming MP (the same man who let friends of his, the Richard Gardner/Ralph Underwager Fan Club bully me for 2 years on Mothers For Justice when I found out where the junk science theories that the Fathers Rights groups and the Secret Family Courts love so much, Parental Alienation, False Memory Syndrome and Muchausens Syndrome By Proxy had come from.
Stuart still hasn't woken up to the awful truth that he's been duped by that creep who pretends to be his friend.
"Many faked up pics of animals show them being homosexual but this has never been proved."
They've even tried to make out Jesus was gay and that he was in love with John. They've even tried to make out that the friendship between Johnathon and David was gay. Everything has to be twisted inside out and out of shape and made to be gay. THEY EVEN MADE OUT THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST WOMANISERS IN FICTION, JAMES BOND IS GAY!
I nearly fell off my seat laughing when I came to that bit in Skyfall.
I hate James Bond films, I think they are utter drivel. Someone asked me last week if I were to cast who the next James Bond who would I choose, and I said for it to be a realistic portayal of an MI5 agent it would have to be a nasty slimy looking creep with a big fat computer gut.
No offence meant to Sean Connery Timothy Dalton Roger Moore ect but I don't really think their glamourous portayal of a Secret Service agent is very realistic.
First they are not gay they are homosexual.
Second Rothschild ordered Peter Mandelson to push the homosexual agenda through the New Labour party, John Prescotts office were furious.
This agenda is part of the agenda to break down the family structure.Do not read pro-homosexual websites like aangirfan as they too are anti-family
AAngirfan wants to make homosexuality the norm, so then we can all go nobbing little boys.
This comes from the Rothschilds
Many years ago a TV prog called "whats my line " hada regular contestant called Gilbert Harding, who said on air that Rothschild chose his apostles from left wing homosexuals, as they would be the next people to rule the world.This was edited out but the studio audience all heard it.
This may be so but we must fight it all we can
HELLO I BE FROM AFRICA, WHICH BE A GOD FEARING PLACE, HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT PROTECTED AS THEY ARE OVER HERE, OUR CHILLUN ARE OUT FUTURE AND MUST BE PROTECTED FROM THESE MEN NOW
THANKYOU
LATTOYA BANDALOGINSKYEVSKINOVA
I hear that the MP David lawes
is again being interviewed by police investigating complaints froma boys home, i hope this time they can nail the bastard.
I live in his constituency and its common knowledge what the man is
David Anthony Laws PC (born 30 November 1965) is the British Liberal Democrat Member of Parliament for Yeovil, and the Minister of State for Schools and the Cabinet Office, where he has a cross-departmental role working on the Coalition Agreement and government policy.
Laws was briefly a Cabinet Minister in 2010, as Chief Secretary to the Treasury. He held office for 17 days before resigning due to the disclosure of his Parliamentary expenses claims, described by the Parliamentary Standards and Privileges Committee as "a series of serious breaches of the rules, over a considerable period of time".[2] In consequence of the breaches he was suspended from Parliament by vote of the House of Commons.
After a career in investment banking, Laws became an economic adviser and later Director of Policy and Research for the Liberal Democrats. In 2001, he was elected as the MP for Yeovil, the seat previously represented by former Liberal Democrat leader Paddy Ashdown.
In 2004, he co-edited The Orange Book: Reclaiming Liberalism, followed by Britain After Blair in 2006. After the 2010 general election, Laws led negotiations for the Liberal Democrats which resulted in a coalition with the Conservative Party.
Yeovil, now thats very interesting to me, because thats where the control freak vicar Maynooth educated Jesuit Rev Michael Hayes who was vicar at St Marys PROTESTANT (supposed to be, the Catholic church being only a few yards accross the road) church transferred to, after having tried to ban me from praying (silently and in accordance with the sanctity of the church) to the Lord Jesus Christ to help Pindown child abuse and Secret Family Court persecution survivors and whistleblowers.
Small world isn't it.
The Lord heard my prayers in spite of that unbelieving control freak wolf in shepherds clothing trying to ban me from saying them!
Just because he doesn't believe in God himself doesn't mean he has the right to stop other people praying!
Laws was born in Farnham, Surrey,[3] son of a Conservative voting father who was a banker, and a Labour voting mother. He would later joke that he was the "perfect fusion" as a Liberal Democrat.[4] He has an older brother and a younger sister, both adopted.[5]
Laws was educated at fee-paying independent schools: Woburn Hill School in the town of Weybridge, Surrey, from 1974 to 1979;[4] and St George's College, Weybridge, a Roman Catholic day school in the same town, from 1979 to 1984. Regarded as a skilled speaker in intellectual argument, he won the national Observer Schools Mace Debating Championship in 1984.[4]
Laws graduated in 1987 from King's College, Cambridge, with a double first in economics.[6]
Career[edit]
Laws went into investment banking, becoming a Vice President at JP Morgan from 1987 to 1992 and then a Managing Director, being the Head of US Dollar and Sterling Treasuries at Barclays de Zoete Wedd.
He left in 1994, to take up the role of economic adviser to the Liberal Democrats, on a salary of £15,000 per year.[7] He unsuccessfully contested Folkestone and Hythe in 1997, against Conservative Home Secretary Michael Howard. From 1997–99 he was the Liberal Democrats's Director of Policy and Research.
Following the 1999 Scottish Parliament election, Laws played a leading advisory role in the negotiation of the Scottish Parliament coalition agreement with Labour, as the UK party's then Policy Director.[8]
Laws' wealth is estimated as £1-2m.[9]
Parliamentary career[edit]
OHO!
Thank you for alerting me to David Laws.
Laws had joined the Liberal Democrat back office at the same time as Nick Clegg while the party was led by Paddy Ashdown. When Ashdown resigned the leadership of the party and then decided to stand down as an MP, Laws was selected for his seat. Both would walk the constituency in what former Royal Marine Ashdown described as mufti attire; but on election day, Laws wore tailored suits.[10]
After his election to parliament, Laws became a member of the Treasury Committee, and in November 2001 he was appointed the party's deputy Defence spokesman. In 2002 he became Lib Dem "shadow" Chief Secretary to the Treasury and launched "a spending review".
He was the co-editor of the Orange Book, published in 2004. In 2005, he was appointed the Liberal Democrats' Work and Pensions spokesman, a position in which he was critical of the government's handling of the Child Support Agency and flaws in the tax credits system. He was subsequently the Liberal Democrat spokesman on Children, Schools and Families.
Shadow Chancellor George Osborne offered Laws a seat in the Conservative Shadow Cabinet, but was rebuffed, with Laws saying "I am not a Tory, and if I merely wanted a fast track to a top job, I would have acted on this instinct a long time ago."[11][12] Following the resignation of Sir Menzies Campbell on 15 October 2007, Laws announced that he would not be a candidate for the leadership of the party.[13]
Government[edit]
Following the 2010 general election, Laws was one of the main negotiators for the Liberal Democrats, part of the team of four that negotiated a deal to go into a governing coalition with the Conservatives.[14] His account of the coalition's formation was published in November 2010 as 22 Days in May.[15]
Laws was one of five Liberal Democrats to obtain Cabinet positions when the coalition was formed, becoming Chief Secretary to the Treasury, tasked with cutting spending in order to reduce the UK deficit.[16] He was appointed as a Privy Counsellor on 13 May 2010.[17]
Laws' predecessor Liam Byrne, wrote a note to his successor as Chief Secretary to the Treasury which read "Dear Chief Secretary, I'm afraid there is no money. Kind regards - and good luck! Liam". Byrne said the letter was meant as a private joke but Laws published it,[18] slightly misquoting it (from memory) at a press briefing as "I’m afraid to tell you there's no money left". Looking back in 2013 he said that he had thought the note was a joke but that he felt it was in poor taste given the poor state of the economy. He had not expected the revelation of the contents of the note to be taken as significantly as they were.[19]
Outlining spending cuts in May 2010, Laws said Child Trust Fund payments would be axed by January 2011. He said halting these payments to newborns from the end of the year – and the top-up payments – would save £520m. Mr Laws said: "The years of public sector plenty are over, but the more decisively we act the quicker and stronger we can come through these tough times." He said that "We also promise to cut with care, we are going to be a progressive government even in these tough times".[20] Iain Martin of the Wall Street Journal published an article on Laws's early performance and described him as a "potential future prime minister"[21]
Expenses scandal, resignation and suspension from Parliament[edit]
On 28 May 2010, The Daily Telegraph disclosed that Laws had claimed more than £40,000 on his expenses in the form of second home costs, from 2004 to late 2009,[22] during which time he had been renting rooms at properties owned by what the newspaper claimed to be his "secret lover" and "long-term partner", James Lundie. They were not in a civil partnership. The Daily Telegraph had not intended to reveal his sexuality, but Laws himself did so, in a public statement shortly before the newspaper's publication of the story.[1] Lundie is a former Liberal Democrat Press officer and now works for the Political Affairs team of public relations and lobbying firm, Edelman.[23]
Laws claimed between £700 and £950 a month rent between 2004 and 2007, plus typically £100 to £200 a month for maintenance, to rent a room in a flat owned and lived in by Lundie in Kennington, South London.[1] After the flat was sold for a profit of £193,000 in 2007, Lundie bought a nearby house for £510,000. Laws then began claiming rent for the “second bedroom” in this property, at a cost of £920 a month, until September 2009. Laws then began renting another flat. This flat was not owned by Lundie, who remained at the Kennington house. Since 2006, parliamentary rules have banned MPs from “leasing accommodation from... a partner.”[1] Laws also maintained his main home in Chard in his Yeovil constituency,[3] as well as a holiday home he owned in Provence, France.[4]
Laws resigned as Chief Secretary to the Treasury on 29 May 2010,[24] stating that he could not carry on working on the Comprehensive Spending Review while dealing with the private and public implications of the revelations.[25] He claimed that his reason for the way he had claimed expenses had been to keep private details of his sexuality and that he had not benefited financially from this misdirection.
In May 2011 the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards reported to the Standards and Privileges Committee on his investigation into the conduct of Laws. The Committee concluded that Laws was guilty of breaking six rules with regard to MPs' expenses. The Commissioner reported that none of Laws's claims for the London properties was acceptable under the rules. but that he had not intended to benefit himself or Lundie directly. In addition to finding against Laws with regard to the payment of rent to his friend, the investigation had also found irregularities in payments for phone bills and building work.[26]
The Standards and Privileges Committee concluded that "... the rental agreements submitted [by Laws] between 2003 and 2008 were misleading and designed to conceal the nature of the relationship. They prevented any examination of the arrangements that in fact pertained over the entire period". Further, his claims for rent were in excess of market levels for a lodging agreement, and a market level agreement would not have included contributions from the lodger towards building repairs and maintenance, which Laws also claimed.[2]
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALERTING ME TO THIS MAN.
After being found guilty, Laws was suspended from the House of Commons for 7 days [27] by MPs in a House of Commons vote on 16 May 2011.[28]
Laws claimed to the Inquiry that his claims could have been almost £30,000 higher over 2004–2010 if he had made claims in respect of his Somerset home. However, no rent was in fact payable on that dwelling, because he owned it. Laws claimed there to be no loss to the taxpayer from the various breaches of the rules. The commissioner stated "I have no evidence that Mr Laws made his claims with the intention of benefiting himself or his partner in conscious breach of the rules."[29] Olly Grender, who was the Liberal Democrat's Communications Director in 1997, writing in the New Statesman asserted that "If he had allocated his constituency home as his second home he would have still been in the cabinet, having claimed £30,000 more".[30] The view of the Standards and Privileges Committee differed, concluding that it was inappropriate to judge whether the claims on a particular property were appropriate by reference to potential payments on another property, which was not in fact claimed for.
The Committee said that Laws was guilty of a series of serious breaches of the rules, over a considerable period of time.[2]
The Committee also mentioned the conduct of Laws after May 2010, stating: "We have also considered whether there needs to be a stronger sanction than repayments. Not only has Mr Laws already resigned from the Cabinet, his behaviour since May 2010 has been exemplary. He quickly referred himself to the Commissioner, has already repaid allowances from July 2006 in full, and has cooperated fully with the Commissioner's investigation". The Committee's conclusion was however that a stronger sanction than repayment was indeed needed. This led to the vote temporarily excluding Laws from the House of Commons.[2]
In 2012, Laws returned to government in the reshuffle as a Minister of State in the Department of Education. He is also responsible for Lib Dem strategy, working closely with his Conservative counterpart, Oliver Letwin. He may attend Cabinet, not as a full member but because of his strategic portfolio.
Political views[edit]
In initial debates on the spending cuts, Conservative MP for Gainsborough, Edward Leigh described Laws as heeding to "stern, unbending Gladstonian Liberalism". Laws added that he believed in "not only Gladstonian Liberalism, but liberalism tinged with the social liberalism about which my party is so passionate."[31]
Around the time of the 2010 general election, it was alleged that Laws told a Conservative colleague that he would have become a Conservative politician had it not been for the Tory party's general "illiberalism and Euroscepticism" and particularly the Thatcher government's introduction of Section 28, which forbade local authorities from "promot[ing] homosexuality".[10] According to former MP Evan Harris, one of Laws' former colleagues, "Laws is a fully social liberal on equality, abortion, faith schools, religion and the state. He is also very sensible on discrimination issues and sex education."[10]
Liberal Democrat MP Malcolm Bruce described Laws as "an unreconstructed 19th century Liberal. He believes in free trade and small government. Government should do only the jobs only government can do. There's no point in having a large public sector if the users of the public services are getting poorer."[10]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/mps-expenses/7780642/MPs-Expenses-Treasury-chief-David-Laws-his-secret-lover-and-a-40000-claim.html
Its his RC Yeovil connection that interests me, because of the Pindown cover up.
Gilbert Harding, he sounds like he might have been another good man who suddenly died too young.
Gilbert Harding
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Gilbert Harding
Born
Gilbert Charles Harding
June 5, 1907
Hereford, England
Died
November 16, 1960 (aged 53)
London, England
Nationality
British
Alma mater
Queens' College, Cambridge
Occupation
Journalist and radio and television personality
Known for
Irascibility
Gilbert Charles Harding (5 June 1907, Hereford, England – 16 November 1960, London, England) was a British journalist and radio and television personality. His many careers included schoolmaster, journalist, policeman, disc-jockey, actor, interviewer and television presenter. He also appeared in several films, sometimes in character parts but usually as himself. Harding had a sizeable role alongside John Mills in the 1952 film The Gentle Gunman. He also made a couple of comedy records in the 1950s.
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Early life[edit]
His father died aged 30 following an appendicitis operation[1] and so his mother placed him into the care of The Royal Orphanage of Wolverhampton. Harding's education continued at Queens' College, Cambridge, after which he took jobs teaching English in Canada and France. He returned to Britain and worked as a policeman in Bradford, before taking a position as The Times correspondent in Cyprus. In 1936 he again returned to England and began a long-term career with the BBC.
BBC career[edit]
Harding regularly appeared on the BBC television panel game What's My Line? as a panellist, having been the presenter of the very first episode in 1951.
Harding was notorious for his irascibility and was at one time characterised in the tabloid press as "the rudest man in Britain". His fame sprang from an inability to suffer fools gladly, and many 1950s TV viewers watched What's My Line? less for the quiz elements than for the chance of a live Harding outburst. An incident on an early broadcast started this trend when Harding became annoyed with a rather self-satisfied contestant. He broke the genteel civility of 1950s BBC Television by telling the contestant that he was getting bored with him. The tabloids lapped this up and the show became compulsive viewing.
The insults on TV were nothing to those in private, such as a wedding reception at which a guest remarked that the bride and groom would make an ideal couple. Harding replied "You should know, you've slept with both of them". He became increasingly unable to move anywhere in public without being accosted by adoring viewers. On one occasion he asked a mother with two children if "your children are crippled", because they had stayed seated on a railway bench.
In 1960 he was reduced to tears on an edition of the Face to Face series,[2] after being questioned by the host John Freeman. As the focus of the interview moved on to the subject of death, Freeman asked Harding if he had ever been in the presence of a dead person. At this point, in replying in the affirmative, Harding's voice began to break and his eyes watered.[3] Freeman later admitted he had not anticipated the effect this would have; Harding had witnessed his mother's death. Freeman appeared to be unaware that Harding was referring to his mother, since later in the interview he asserted that Harding's mother was still alive. Harding contradicted him and Freeman moved quickly on.
Freeman publicly expressed regret about this line of questioning, which was seen by some commentators in retrospect as a tactless attempt to expose Harding's homosexuality,[4] though the viewing public did not become aware of it, and he was seen as merely a lonely bachelor. Like all homosexuals in public life at the time, he kept it secret because male homosexual behaviour was a criminal offence in the UK. Harding also admitted in the programme that his bad manners and temper were "indefensible". "[I'm] profoundly lonely", he stated; later adding "I would very much like to be dead".
Later life[edit]
He did die a few weeks after the programme was broadcast, directly after recording a radio programme, collapsing outside Broadcasting House as he was about to climb into a taxi. The cause was an asthma attack. He was 53 years old.
Harding was buried in St Mary's Roman Catholic Cemetery, Kensal Green, Greater London.[5]
Media[edit]
Behind Harding's gruff exterior there was a lonely and complex man who constantly donated to charity, visited the sick and helped many in need[citation needed]. But such details, in conflict with the public image, became public only after his death. In 1979 radio presenter Owen Spencer-Thomas on BBC Radio London's Gilbert Harding described him as "enigmatic ... bad-tempered and rude, yet his friends counted him as one of the kindest, and most generous."[6]
The Face to Face interview was re-broadcast on BBC Four on 18 October 2005, following a repeated episode of What's My Line?. It was also broadcast in part on the BBC Four series 'Talk at the BBC.'
Like I keep saying, I don't hate homosexuals, I just hate paedophiles hiding their crimes against children.
A lot of homosexual men were perverted at bording schools. How sad that the crime committed against them isolates them from the perverts who hurt them and from God.
It sounds to me like Gilbert Harding tried to say something that other people didn't want him to say. God wont judge him for that at all, if it is true.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/barbara-richards-victim-of-child-abuse.html
Gilbert Harding was involved with Rothschilds cambridge homosexual traitors gang called the apostles.
He later regretted this, and went to severl sessions where he confessed he knew the apostles were out to destroy britian,and were sleeping with young boys after the third session he collapsed and died in the street,
The coriner suspected foul play but the findings were inconslusive
I am about 10 years younger than you Barbara but remember the Pindown issue very well. I have read a lot, if not most, of what you write on forums and comment sections and I am very pleased to see aangirfan post this detailed profile of you as a person. It allows people to see you as you are and what has happened to you - thanks aang.
My heart goes out to you as one person to another, I will forever remember your story as told here, whenever I see a post by 'Zoompad'
Much love
Well, I don't trust Aabgirfan any more, I don't know why he/she has done that post on me, but in my opinion it's another layer of abuse.
I never wanted my personal life blazoned all over the internet and everywhere, but being dragged through the Secret Family Courts and falsely accused of Parental Alienation Syndrome (invented by a gang of American paedophiles) forced me to forgo my right to a private life, I had to use the internet to scream for help, as the Secret Family Court gangsters (well thats what they are) had hemmed me into a corner and were threatening and bullying me.
It wasn't my sons father doing it, the ones who were attacking me were my own legal team! It was my own legal representatives, who should have been looking after my and my sons best interests who were doing all the bullying and threatening.
I found out about Richard Gardner and Ralph Underwager while I was being bullied and threatened with the removal of my son and being sectioned or jailed. What a way to treat someone, the way that Stafford Crown Court treated me, and they all knew I had been in Chadswell Assessment Centre and had my life stuffed up because of the abuse there, THEY ALL OF THEM KNEW!
My son's father did a very bad thing in taking me to court, but he was being egged on by some really vile people. What he did was wrong, but what they did was far far worse.
Aangirfan hasn't published their names, so I will. Murray Cantlay, Inderjit Thind, Lisa Haughton, Jane Buckley, Anthony Cleary. There are others but those ones are the worst of the bunch. Oh and the politicians who knew all about what was going on, my own MP Bill Cash, he did say though that it was him who set up the Operation Ore investigation, so he might actually be on the side of the angels, I don't know, but certainly John Hemming MP isn't as he was letting me be bullied on Mothers For Justice by paedophiles (including Nigel Oldfield) for 2 years, because I refused to shut up about Richard Gardner and Ralph Underwager. Also the liar Mark Fisher MP, who pretended not to know about Pindown (EVEN THOUGH HE IS IN THE ACTUAL PINDOWN REPORT THAT STAFFORD IS REFUSING TO PUBLISH, EVEN PRETENDING THEY HAVEN'T EVEN GOT A COPY!)
ALL I WANTED WAS TO BE ALLOWED TO HAVE MY LIFE IN PEACE AND NOT BE TERRIFIED, BULLIED, THREATENED ECT, AND JUST LIVE IN PEACE AND HAVE A FAMILY LIFE AND BE A MUM AND I THOUGHT EVERYONE WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE THAT, BUT NO, NOT IN GREAT BRITAIN, NOT ANY MORE, BECAUSE IF YOU ARE ONE OF THE PINDOWN CHILDREN YOU ARE CLASSED AS AN ENEMY OF THE STATE JUST PURELY AND SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO COVER UP THE ABUSE, BECAUSE THEY WERE LETTING RICH INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE POLITICIANS AND ALL SORTS INTO THE HELL HOLES THAT WERE KNOWN AS PINDOWN CHILDRENS HOMES!
AND I AM NOT A SPITEFUL PERSON, (AS CAFCASS SAID I WAS) I AM NOT A MAN HATER OR A LESBIAN, I AM JUST A WOMAN WHO GOT ABUSED AND REABUSED AND REABUSED AND REABUSED WHO HAS REFUSED TO PUT UP AND SHUT UP (LIKE A GOOD LITTLE GIRL) I HAVE FOUGHT MY CORNER LIKE A TIGER, I HAVE ASKED THE LORD MY GOD JESUS CHRIST TO DEFEND ME WHEN THEY WERE ALL GANGING UP ON ME, I AM NOT A MENTALLY ILL ATTENTION SEEKER AS STAFFORD POLICE CALLED ME, OR IF I AM ITS ONLY BECAUSE THEY'VE MADE ME ILL WITH ALL THE HORRIBLE BULLYING, I HAVE PTSD BUT THATS BECAUSE OF ALL THE HORRIBLE BULLYING, IF THE HORRIBLE BULLYING CARRIES ON THE LORD MY GOD WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEND ME, WHY THE HELL WON'T THEY SIMPLY SAY SORRY AND STOP ALL THIS?
This is what I have posted onto Aangirfans latest blog postm the one all about me, just in case this one gets censored as well (though I see some of the censored posts have been manually put up by Aangirfan now, copied and pasted)
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I don't know why you have made this post all about me and the horrible ordeal me and my family have had to endure first in Pindown and then in the Secret Family Courts, but I am not silly enough to think it is because you give a damn about me and my family, or even my son's father, who in my opinion, is really another victim of the massive con trick that is the Secret (therefore illegal) Family Courts human trafficking scam. Because I didn't stop him seeing our son in the first place, I kept telling everyone that over and over and over and over again, bUT NOONE WOULD LISTEN AND THEY KEPT CALLING ME A SPITEFUL LIAR!
First you allow me to be bullied on your blog, then you censor me from defending myself, and now this.
I don't know what you're playing at Aangirfan, but the Lord my God will protect me from any more wicked plotting.
If you censor me from posting this, thats ok, because it will just go onto my own blog. I will have my say, whatever.
I wasn't impressed with the WOMEN KNOW THY PLACE spanking photo blogpost on Aangirfans blog either.
I do like that episode in The Little House On The Prarie where Laura Ingalls has to put up with being bullied by a schoolteacher who so obviously can't stand children. I do love Laura's stoic attitude as the teacher canes her and bullies her, but she is so focussed in just getting on with her studies. In the end, her good father steps in and the teacher with a real vocation for teaching Miss Beadle is brought back.
But Laura Ingalls isn't being submissive and passive in that episode, she is siezing her life chance to an education, she is determined not to let her future go down the drain for want of a good teacher, she's showing guts.
Spanking was rife in schools when I was young. Thank God it's banned now.
If you can't teach a child stuff without resorting to whacking them one, then you're not fit to teach at all.
Likewise, if you can't run a place of work or even a country without having to issue dire threats to the most vulnerable and soul weary every 5 minuites, then you're really not fit to manage.
Kindness has gone out of the window in the UK, its seen as old fashioned, why? Simple human kindness would prevent a lot of bad people getting away with doing bad stuff - they would stand out like sore thumbs.
The Weakest Link is one of the most depressing programs to me on the television. It set the standard for all the other bullying programs to come. Programs = human conditioning.
AANGIRFAN HAS PUBLISHED MY COMMENT, PLUS THIS:
Anon said...
I note that there is Asperger's Syndrome in Barbara's family.
I know 3 people with Asperger's.
Asperger's is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and nonverbal communication, alongside restricted and repetitive patterns of behavior and interests.
A lack of demonstrated empathy has a significant impact on aspects of communal living for persons with Asperger syndrome.
Individuals with AS experience difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include (1)a failure to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others, (2)a lack of social or emotional reciprocity.
A person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feelings or reactions.
This failure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive.
10:54 AM
YES I DO HAVE ASPERGER SYNDROME, SO WHAT, DEAL WITH IT, IT'S NOT MY FAULT I HAVE IT IS IT?
I know I can be hard work for some people, going on and on and on all the time, I know I do that, funny enough other Asperger Syndrome people I feel more comfortable with, I suppose it's easier for us to understand each other.
BUT THAT DOESN'T EXCUSE THE SECRET FAMILY COURT GANGSTERS AND THE PINDOWN COVER UPPERS WHAT THEY DID, IT WAS CRUEL BEYOND BELIEF WHAT THEY DID, SO DON'T YOU DARE TRY TO BLAME EVERYTHING ON THE FACT THAT I HAVE ASPERGER SYNDROME!
Zoompad
Chris Bergdahl of CHS security Lowestoft is very good friends with Matt Porter in Ipswich, freemason mafia member, Matt Porter Supports aspergers charity on his work website Matt porter web design.
Most of his linked friends are Freemasons, all internet hacking experts.
Remember the north Norfolk council leader who shot his wife then himself, freemason, there's a telegraph article about it.
Your in great danger Barbara, but you must like us in the fraternity do this, in times of trouble trust in god to protect you, when feeling afraid, say your lords prayer, 50 times a day if needed
I'm not going to stop reading a blog where they are talking about me, I have to read it, just as I had to read the Jersey Farce Blog, to see what they are saying.
"say your lords prayer, 50 times a day if needed "
Why? The Lord isn't deaf is he, so I only need to say it once!
"Remember the north Norfolk council leader who shot his wife then himself, freemason, there's a telegraph article about it.
Your in great danger Barbara"
This is bonkers. Why can't they simply apologise? I'm no threat to anyone at all whatsoever! I don't even have any grudge or hard feelings towards my sons father any more, now he's apologised.
Why can't they simply do the right thing and say sorry?
If they try any of this assasination nonsense on me, my family or even my percieved enemies ( the enemies they suppose me to have, I refuse to play the game by hating people who have done bad things to me as I am supposed to, I give all my hard and bitter feelings to the Lord Jesus Christ, leave them at the foot of the Cross) all that will happen is that it will all fly onto their own already burdened shoulders, the Lord my God will protect me from all their wicked attacks.
They should just do the right thing, and simply say sorry. Thats all I am asking for, an apology. Everyone knows that.
I'm not spiteful at all, and never have been. Thats where they cocked up, they tried to make me out to be spiteful, and the mud just wont stick, because its not true.
My dad said I am as stubborn as a donkey, but I think he liked me being like that, because it showed I had some spunk, even though it can be very annoying.
I just refuse to let other people blacken my name. I just wont let people get away with calling me spiteful. I'm not spiteful at all, I am very kind and forgiving, but I won't be treated like an idiot!
"Your in great danger Barbara"
My life or my soul? Much as I value my life here on earth, I value my eternal soul even more, as people should.
Ralph Underwager didn't, neither did Richard Gardner, I dread to think where they are now, time does not even exist for them any more, once you cross that barrier its either to the eternal paradise or eternal damnation.
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